05-05/18:03 Hagbard: At some point we did call this "Alea Berserk 17x17 (Martens 2)"

05-05/15:16 Hagbard: Name change:
Martens Alea -> Old Alea
Old Tyr-1 -> Martens Alea

05-05/14:21 Hagbard: Alea Berserk 17x17 (Martens) as it is set up now,
is actually identical to Old Tyr-1 17x17, the variant which was tested right after.
The latter is already well tested and the balance is +1.08.
(Alea Berserk 17x17 (Martens) was the version with guards, and other places for commanders and variegated men.)

05-05/12:24 Hagbard: If Daldos12 is counted:
Races are still running so anything can happen, but the position is right now
F1 points test sum Sahkku + Daldos16 + Daldos14 + Daldos12:
#1 80 points Holidayinnes (63)
#2 65 points Jilles (64)
#3 48 points Hagbard (45)
#4 46 points Potapych (44)
#5 45 points Draganov (49)
#6 40 points Rosk (42)
#7 32 points Xerxes (39)
#8 24 points Brave-frog (33)
#8 24 points Tonythebook (32)
#10 23 points Cacreal (29)
#11 22 points Colophonius (34)
#12 18 points Jrton80 (31)
#13 4 points Nikolai hristov (12)
#14 0 points Herjan (5), Thorfin (4)

05-05/09:53 Hagbard: I found some old emails to throw light on the history of the Alea Berserk 17x17 (Martens).
Luk Martens had for some time worked with inventing this game and testing it at home with friends:
- The setup of pieces transferred to a 17x17 board from the historical known Alea Evangelii 19x19 setup.
- Introducing commanders, variegated men and guards.
- Using berserk moves.

January 2020 we started testing it here. The guards were unarmed and immortal and were meant to protect the king. But the tests showed that they more helped the attackers, who could hide behind them near the king.

But fun test games. In a test game, Adam Bartley in the very last move killed two men, turned over a V-man and captured the king in one turn!

The balance was at that time measured to -2.0
The guards were given up, the variegated men were moved forward, and February 2020 the board was outlined which is tested now.

From the Alea Berserk 17x17 (Martens), Luk Martens continued the development into the Tyr games.

05-05/00:22 Antonius: I'm new here, so not quite sure how things work.  If I want to accept a game or tournament invitation, how do I know what the time control is for the game before clicking the button to accept?  I just want to make sure I don't commit to something and then find I'm not able to manage the time allowance.  Thanks in advance.

05-04/19:25 Hagbard: At some point we measured the balance -2.0; but this setup with changed positions of V's has not been tried before.

05-04/19:06 Draganov: Even with immortal and jumping K the whites have difficulties to win the game

05-04/19:05 Draganov: I played dozen of games in this variant and found out that the K piece (both immortal and able to capture by jumping over a piece) is vital to keep the game well-balanced. There is no way a strong player to lose with the blacks are if the K piece is immortal but unarmed.

05-04/18:12 Hagbard: As far as I remember, the function of the guard pieces were to be immortal and unarmed.